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Please help me! Anyone out there? 2007/06/09 02:44  
I see a lot of live users, but don't seem to get replies to my post. Not trying to sound like a whiner, I am just trying to get my focus so I can get to work. I just need clarification on they keyword search. I read the posts and I know Holly and most say to use wordtracker. I was always under the impression to pay attention to kei. I see now, I should only look at search and competition. My question is this? What is the minimum # of searches in comparison to the competition? What is a good starting or cut off point. I was already on the right track as far as non internet realted products. I just seem to have been using the wrong keyword tools thinking I had a good keyword when in fact I didnt really! Any advice help, would be great!
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Re:Please help me! Anyone out there? 2007/06/09 03:15  
Well, I will tell you about one of my favourite tools I've found and that is this right here.

http://tools.seobook.com/general/keyword/

This will give you searches and results for the big 3 laid right in front of you. Google, Yahoo, MSN.

As far as ratio's that's a bit of a tough one to answer, but I will tell you, that it's much better to optimize for lesser searched terms. You have a much better chance of getting good rankings with lesser searched terms than any of the largely popular one's. You will just want to rank for more of them.

A good rule of thumb is anything over say 1000 to 1500 searches a month may be worth going after. Of course try and find higher one's but these can still be worth going after. To get good traffic from these lesser searched terms you can optimize different pages for different terms and more of them.

When your typing in what the competition is in Google search
type the term in "parenthesis", that is your direct competition for the term. When you don't use parenthesis it brings back your overall competition for the term.

Obviously the lesser amount of competing sites for a term the better, again, a good rule of thumb, try to use terms that have less than 1 million competing sites overall, less even better!


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Re:Please help me! Anyone out there? 2007/06/09 07:39  
cesteele7,

Your overall goal is to find the highest ratio of monthly searches to the total number of sites (or, competition) out there.

Let's take the term 'ipod' for example - there are 210,000,000 sites using this keyword according to Google. Now, there are 3,600,000 monthly searches for this term. You want the ratio of monthly/total or in our example 3.6M/210M to be as high as possible. The result for ipod is .017.

Now look at the term 'Blue Ray' as in a Blue Ray DVD player. The ratio is 68000/1620000 = .04, or, about 3x the search volume to competition.

If the monthly searches are high and the competition is low - you are in great shape but only if the total monthly volume is high.

So, to review - use a formula such as:

Monthly Volume/Total Competition and find the highest value possible where the Monthly Volume is also high.
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Re:Please help me! Anyone out there? 2007/06/09 07:39  
cesteele7,

Sorry it posted twice.

Post edited by: donjames, at: 2007/06/09 07:42
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Re:Please help me! Anyone out there? 2007/06/12 01:06  
The Davinator wrote:
Well, I will tell you about one of my favourite tools I've found and that is this right here.

http://tools.seobook.com/general/keyword/

This will give you searches and results for the big 3 laid right in front of you. Google, Yahoo, MSN.

As far as ratio's that's a bit of a tough one to answer, but I will tell you, that it's much better to optimize for lesser searched terms. You have a much better chance of getting good rankings with lesser searched terms than any of the largely popular one's. You will just want to rank for more of them.

A good rule of thumb is anything over say 1000 to 1500 searches a month may be worth going after. Of course try and find higher one's but these can still be worth going after. To get good traffic from these lesser searched terms you can optimize different pages for different terms and more of them.

When your typing in what the competition is in Google search
type the term in "parenthesis", that is your direct competition for the term. When you don't use parenthesis it brings back your overall competition for the term.

Obviously the lesser amount of competing sites for a term the better, again, a good rule of thumb, try to use terms that have less than 1 million competing sites overall, less even better!


Davin


Thanks so much! You just cleared up a lot for me. I have been so frustrated lately. I knew about the parenthesis. I think in trying to find less competition I was getting too far away from the main keyword and not enough search results. I won't be so afraid of the competiton and just do what I know I should. thanks
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