Thread: Is any body REALLY making money with these?

There are well over 100 social media possibilities to choose from besides MySpace or Facebook and some even pay you to participate.I advertise very little on them directly but 'png' them or use bookmarking plug-ins or feeds to spread word about my content of posts and articles and reviews.Likewise excerpts appear on several and backlinks are beginning to appear.Visibility of links to my sites on other sites via feeds,pings or posting all carry various value weight with search engines taking also into account the ranking of the sites backlinking or displaying my links[there is a difference].Doing a search of keywords related to my blog articles,posts by me elsewhere ,etc. will bring various results.Google,Yahoo,Bing,Ask,Mr.Wong, and Alexa all bring unique results.Yahhoo sees my name only in Youtube as a member but shows dozens of links otherwise.So far Google shows many results for specific keywords only,even on 1st and 2nd pages but gives me no ranking.(My corrupted sitemap may have something to do with that.).
Don't give up on social media to help you make money.There are many white hat benefits.


PS: buying juices and vitamins from hyped up sites only propagates more illegal pyramid mlm sites; illegal because only the top makes money and the bottom collapses, frequently stuck with overpriced product, for 4 reasons:
1-top heavy pyramid not due to shape but compensation irregularities and inconsistencies
2-even when the lower rungs of the sales force gets everything drop shipped,they end up paying shipping and handling to remain competitive against other web sites that have sufficient traffic to be able to afford reduced shipping costs and even undersell you if company policy allows it.
Some of the websites are not affiliate run either.
3-the turnover in the lower rungs is stupendous and you spend too much time recruiting more people to maintain your downline matrix or the like.
4- not only can the people on top be prosecuted for pyramid violations but so can every participant.

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Originally Posted by paj_mccarthy
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I don't really agree with the Myspace, Acai berry strategy allied with Blackhat friend gathering. I can see how it works, it's just not how I choose to do business, and I'm probably poorer for it. It'll be much sweeter to make the grade without resorting to ripping people off, which is basically what these acai berry products are.

I agree fully. Even if I thought I could earn money with some kind of nutty scam ... I mean, come on. When you were a kid people said "what do you want to be when you grow up?" How many of us said, "a scammer!"

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Originally Posted by annaverawilliams
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I agree fully. Even if I thought I could earn money with some kind of nutty scam ... I mean, come on. When you were a kid people said "what do you want to be when you grow up?" How many of us said, "a scammer!"

Only kids of con artists I'm sure.Then again I know several teenagers and young adults in my home town and former home city who do not consider themselves as scammers but are nonetheless just leeches.Over my lifetime I have known (past tense to emphasize) people on both sides of the law from the real low-lifes to upstanding citizens and from gang leaders to policemen and even a few spies and undercover agents.Now I meet them as internet marketers,both good and bad along with the u___.Despite that my desire to see the best in people gets me into trouble the odd time and nearly get taken in by some scam artists.They fall into the same class as the Nigerian scam and come in all colors and flavors.Funny thing is ,I've traced quite a few of them back to IP servers in North America
I am not comparing the above mentioned berry sales techniques to outright scams but there are way too many offers presented where the little guy will and cannot realistically make any money honestly nor expect a lifelong promised income.Unfortunately the health industry is plagued with marketers preying on the weakest looking for better health and paying through the nose.
There I go ranting again about one of my peeves.
Just be careful what you sign up for.To repeat an earlier post,pyramid schemes are illegal and you can be prosecuted just for being a new member affiliate.

Thank you everyone for your words of wisdom, well most of you anyway :-)
I have two points, Black hat may work, but will only work for a short time.
I use social sites to be social, and expect the same. If I am having a problem and you are my friend and can help, please do so. Just do not try to solicit me.
My thoughts.

Wherever there is a group of people hanging out there will always be a chance to monetize that group. Just need to understand the language.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Potts
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Black Hat will definitely and eventually get you in a big black hole of trouble...It isn't ethical...don't do it.

Kevin

Errrr What is Black Hat?

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Originally Posted by annaverawilliams
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I agree fully. Even if I thought I could earn money with some kind of nutty scam ... I mean, come on. When you were a kid people said "what do you want to be when you grow up?" How many of us said, "a scammer!"

Very well said. There are already a lot of scams out there. There are ways to profit and not take anybody for a ride.

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Originally Posted by jss1008
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Errrr What is Black Hat?
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Black Hat is a term that refers to breaking the rules, generally in regards to the search engines. White Hat means that you follow the rules.

Some folks use Black Hat to gain search engine prominence and bring traffic to their site. While it may work for some in the short run, the chance is that you will be caught and banned.

It's like cheating to win . . . . probably not a good strategy in the long run. If you educate yourself, there are plenty of White Hat methods to succeed.
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I think there is a generation gap when it comes to the various social marketing methods. What seems to be so simple to younger people just ain't so simple for the not so young! However, that is merely an observation, not a problem. Just means there are several other things about which I need to learn........

Kate

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Originally Posted by kategraham
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I think there is a generation gap when it comes to the various social marketing methods. What seems to be so simple to younger people just ain't so simple for the not so young! However, that is merely an observation, not a problem. Just means there are several other things about which I need to learn........

Kate

Kate,

While it may be true that some of the younger folk take to new technologies faster. Here is an article form the New York Times on who is actually using Twitter (Hint: it's not the teens)


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Several of us are in the older generation.Heck,I'm nearly 63 I might not learn as fast as I used to and teaching an old dog new tricks sometimes is blocked by stubborness,ego,,mindset,and fatigue.Sense of responsibility,fear of failure[pride] and financial worries all pay a more important role with old fogies.At least as an excuse.Life is continuous learning and if we new it all we wouldn't be just participating members but administrators and even they admit that they are constantly learning.

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Originally Posted by Methow
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Black Hat is a term that refers to breaking the rules, generally in regards to the search engines. White Hat means that you follow the rules.

Some folks use Black Hat to gain search engine prominence and bring traffic to their site. While it may work for some in the short run, the chance is that you will be caught and banned.

It's like cheating to win . . . . probably not a good strategy in the long run. If you educate yourself, there are plenty of White Hat methods to succeed.
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Oh, Thanks! Much like Black magic and white magic! Oh sorry, sort of thought about Harry Patter for a while there.

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Originally Posted by paj_mccarthy
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It'll be much sweeter to make the grade without resorting to ripping people off, which is basically what these acai berry products are.

Yeah, I agree that is not how i want to make money...ripping people off.

I have been ripped off (many times) and didn't like it at all.

It might be fast money, but I would rather have a long steady income, then have to jump form one scam tactic to the other.

I would not go as far as saying Acai Berry is a rip off but many health food related products have become just that because of their affiliate structure pay outs and matixes.I think you,Paj,talked to Mel about that very thing.

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Originally Posted by The5sisters
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I would not go as far as saying Acai Berry is a rip off but many health food related products have become just that because of their affiliate structure pay outs and matixes.I think you,Paj,talked to Mel about that very thing.

I would I have bought some of them...it looks like grape juice to me for $40 a bottle.

Bottom line on getting the most from acai berries is use them raw in a smoothie, everything in a bottle has been cooked and killing off just about all of the nutrients the berries contain.

Ditto for two posts when it comes to some of the Herbalife type products.[here comes a lawsuit]

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Originally Posted by The5sisters
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Ditto for two posts when it comes to some of the Herbalife type products.[here comes a lawsuit]

Yup, I tried Herbalife as well...not my cup of tea either.

Looks like I kinda got off topic..sorry about that.
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I am keen to try anything I have a twitter account and a linkedin account but I am not sure how to target traffic without being accused of spamming. While I am on about these social sites how do you make friends on this site? On linked in people keep saying can I be your friend, absolutley I can use all the friends I can get. So how does it work on this site?

Keep Smiling


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is the progressive realisation of a worthy idea Earl Nightingale 1921-1989

u can't deny that using social media and web2.0 is another way of generating free traffic as well as plugging in useful links to ppl so that they might purchase something. but it has become overcrowded with too many hard-sells nowadays that the personal relationship building aren't there anymore.

i still prefer ppl engaging in a real communication that adds value!

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Originally Posted by kjhblue
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I am keen to try anything I have a twitter account and a Linkedin account but I am not sure how to target traffic without being accused of spamming. While I am on about these social sites how do you make friends on this site? On Linkedin in people keep saying can I be your friend, absolutely I can use all the friends I can get. So how does it work on this site?

Keep Smiling


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is the progressive realization of a worthy idea Earl Nightingale 1921-1989

On Linkedin there must be quite a few people who have read your profile and see something that attracts them to want to become friends or you have friends in common and they are also trying to expand their network.The key here is a good and interesting profile without a sales pitch but a few links only to your sites.These links can be changed every time you want.

With Twitter there are many programs that can get you followers including scripts that can be added to your site or blog.Even using your Twitter account like twitterdotcom/your twitter username in your signature can help.
The best way is to use the search for Twitter Groups to find groups who have the same interests as you do ,whether internet marketing in general,your niche or micro-niche or other keyword.
Then when you tweet don't promote your products;promote yourself with helpful tidbits of information,a new blog article you posted,an interesting brief bio in your profile,etc.