Traffic From Forum - does it work?

[Gideon van Niekerk]

Hi

My name is Gideon van Niekerk

I asume most of you know CHRIS FARRELL.
This man is truly blessed with a gift to teach people.

I almost Got kicked of the forum, because it was my first time ever on a Forum. I spamed everything.
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I thought by myself does Traffic from Forums really work... I do believe it will, because the teaching from Chris explains it this way. I do not just want to be another Affiliate. I want to make a differance on the worl wide web and of course for my family.
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Lets ensure traffic and let me LEARN

Signing off

[Dave Hill]

Forum posting does work.Just keep posting on here ,install Google Analytics on your site and you will soon find out .

[The5sisters]

But not from signature links directly,although our signatures are randomly used for backtracks.The signatures in a forum are 'no-follow" in this and most forums mainly because search engines cannot just pick up one post out of a "conversation" and consider it useful information by itself.Also robotz would use up an horrendous amount of server bandwidth.New threads that are very useful and receive a lot of comments may get posted elsewhere and thus get Google "luv".
Forum comments are not all picked up by the search engines either .Very few are posted elsewhere because of robotz in search results.Traffic comes from forums when a particularly good comment or post is 'talked' about on other sites linking back to the post or comment and that is when the search engines give you the 'luv' and traffic.

[wahgo]

But not from signature links directly,although our signatures are randomly used for backtracks.The signatures in a forum are 'no-follow" in this and most forums mainly because search engines cannot just pick up one post out of a "conversation" and consider it useful information by itself.Also robotz would use up an horrendous amount of server bandwidth.New threads that are very useful and receive a lot of comments may get posted elsewhere and thus get Google "luv".
Forum comments are not all picked up by the search engines either .Very few are posted elsewhere because of robotz in search results.Traffic comes from forums when a particularly good comment or post is 'talked' about on other sites linking back to the post or comment and that is when the search engines give you the 'luv' and traffic.

Makes sense what you say about forum postings and getting Google "luv"

Google Analytics keeps track of where links are coming from. It is easy to qualify the forums worth posting and belonging to because you will be able to identify which forums your links are sending traffic from.

[The5sisters]

Yes,that is a caveat.Analytics do show links from this forum to my blogs and visa versa, but not from search engine robotz.Comments and article threads by me on this forum are sometimes reposted on other sites and then picked up by search engines; even just links here from "For further information you should check out the post on --this forum --thread--address."

[Donn Wright]

Forum posting will generate some sales if:

1. You take the time to contribute valuable input to the forum and build a "rep" (reputation)
within the community as someone who knows what they are talking about.

2. You don't just jump in and start trying to peddle your wares with no contribution whatsoever.

No forum needs or wants all of it's members just trying to sell to each other. You will get banned and labeled as a troll. Chris knows this and he also knows that it takes time and a lot of effort to build a rep in a forum.

Think of it this way. Why on earth would anyone here want to buy your product when we don't know you or how much or little you know? Do you just expect us to believe you found the Mother lode when you don't even bother to read the rules of the forum before pitching us? Get real.

I have been away from this forum for about a month due to personal reasons. It would seem that in the meanwhile that Chris Farrell has been elected as the savior of IM.

Please don't get me wrong. I think he is probably the best teacher on the net for the basic skills necessary to start your online career. You do need to remember that he is teaching you to sell his products only and in the most competitive niche on the Internet at that.

A word to the (hopefully) wise. The chances of a raw newbie breaking into the "make money on the Internet market" and being successful is somewhat less than zero. Consider your competition for a moment. The biggest names and the most talented people in IM are working there. You, on the other hand, have probably not sold the first item on the net yet. Do you think watching sports on tv qualifies you to participate at the highest level?

Do yourself a favor and find a less competitive niche to start in if you really want to make it on the net. When you have made enough money to quit your day job, you may be qualified to tell folks how to make money on the net.

Btw, the days of a one page squeeze page ranking in Google are just about history.

Rant over.
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Cheers,

[mrsray]

I didn't realize the signatures were "no follow". Thanks for mentioning that. So good posts to go viral is the goal in forums, huh?

[Dave Hill]

Hi

My name is Gideon van Niekerk

I asume most of you know CHRIS FARRELL.
This man is truly blessed with a gift to teach people.

I almost Got kicked of the forum, because it was my first time ever on a Forum. I spamed everything.
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I thought by myself does Traffic from Forums really work... I do believe it will, because the teaching from Chris explains it this way. I do not just want to be another Affiliate. I want to make a differance on the worl wide web and of course for my family.
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Lets ensure traffic and let me LEARN

Signing off

Gideon

Check your sig link.I tried it and it didn't work.

[The5sisters]

Good posts show in the Forum feed and the search engines see them.I added a feed from this forum to some of my sites to show headlines from all recent posts and as they update and my pages refresh or a reader goes to another article ,then the feed updates on my sites.I used a widget code and placed it right into the page.php file and the singlepost.php file,so it shows under every article like a larger banner.I posted the code in another thread here.I think it was one of the last 3 pages of "Get Your free edu domain"

[steveR]

A word to the (hopefully) wise. The chances of a raw newbie breaking into the "make money on the Internet market" and being successful is somewhat less than zero.

I respectfully disagree with that statement. I personally think it's the biggest "myth" being perpetuated online...

I would dare to say it may be the "easiest" market to make money in (along with other make money niches)... based on my own and other people's experience. It just have to be done the "right" way.

Most of the "successful" affiliate marketers I know started by selling into this market.

/Steven

[steveR]

As for whether forum posting works or not... I would say it's probably some of the most targeted free traffic sources that you can get.

But as Donn suggests, you have to provide value in your posts. Just writing crud posts with no meaning or spamming forums will just get your accounts banned.

Being able to "prove yourself" as someone worth listening to will get you traffic and customers.

/Steven

[Donn Wright]

Steven,

While the "make money" niches certainly have room in them for everyone, (theoretically),
it seems preposterous to me to suggest that a newbie should start there for several reasons.

1. SEO is more difficult than in most niches and they have no business with PPC yet.

2. They will be competing with some of the biggest and smartest pros (cons) in IM.

3. Most importantly, they don't know how to make money themselves, much less how to teach someone else. IMHO, this is why the Internet is crawling with wannabes and copycats leaching money out of unsuspecting newbies for the sole purpose of lining their own pockets with no regard for their customers. How in the Hell can you provide value to your customers if you don't have a clue yourself?????

Although I know a few people who have started in the make money niches and actually made it work, but there are thousands who fail every day because they can't make a penny.


I would suggest they stick with the low hanging fruit until they learn their craft before jumping into the deep end of the pool.

Cheers,

[steveR]

While the "make money" niches certainly have room in them for everyone, (theoretically),
it seems preposterous to me to suggest that a newbie should start there for several reasons.

1. SEO is more difficult than in most niches and they have no business with PPC yet.

2. They will be competing with some of the biggest and smartest pros (cons) in IM.

3. Most importantly, they don't know how to make money themselves, much less how to teach someone else. IMHO, this is why the Internet is crawling with wannabes and copycats leaching money out of unsuspecting newbies for the sole purpose of lining their own pockets with no regard for their customers. How in the Hell can you provide value to your customers if you don't have a clue yourself?????

Well... again I have to respectfully disagree with you.

1) There are many ways to get traffic besides SEO in the niche (actually the best traffic from this niche isn't from SEO or PPC). With the easiest probably being forum marketing (as an example, I built a list of over 3000 people in a sub-niche strictly by using forum marketing in less than 90-days).

Having said that, there are plenty of long-tail product specific keywords you could rank for... (and many people do and make sales on a daily basis).

2) The "Make Money" niche is HUGE with new people coming in on a daily basis who have never heard of [insert your favorite goo-roo's name here]... so, not being one is totally ok.

Plus what you're suggesting is like saying I shouldn't try selling books online because Amazon has that market cornered...

3) What does having made money in the niche have anything to do with it?

People have many different skill sets that can be very valuable to marketers that they may have picked up elsewhere... anything from publishing skills, writing, video creation and editing, photoshop skills, audio skills etc. (this list could go on and on).

Often times you can leverage the knowledge you already have to provide highly valuable information in the niche...

Many have purchased dozens of products in the niche, and if they liked one (or disliked one) they could easily write reviews of products they have read...

Not to mention the fact that you can sell your services to this market very easily...

Although I know a few people who have started in the make money niches and actually made it work, but there are thousands who fail every day because they can't make a penny.

I know dozens of marketers who got started in this niche (not to mention some famous gurus - like Mike Filsaime and Frank Kern to name just 2).

As for thousands of people failing... that happens regardless of the niche / business. (Perhaps by increasing their rate of failure they could potentially see success sooner).

I would suggest they stick with the low hanging fruit until they learn their craft before jumping into the deep end of the pool.

Obviously our paradigms and experiences have been very different... which is fine. All I can say is that for many the "Make Money" niche has been the shallow end of the pool...

Just my $0.02.

/Steven

[Donn Wright]

If you know Mike Filsaime or Frank Kern personally and want to tout them as heroes, that tells me a lot about you.

Let me ask you a simple question. If you want to get work done on your car, are you going to want a person with many years of experience and all the certifications, or someone who has actually never worked on a car but knows someone who has?

The ONLY business on the planet where a person with no experience would even dare try to charge people for teaching them something they personally know nothing about is IM.

Perhaps we should hire high school dropouts as our school teachers, it would certainly save some money.
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As for my experience? Only 30+ years of sales, marketing, and business ownership before I started in IM. Would I expect a newbie with no related experience to be able to do the things I do in the beginning? Of course not.

I've had this argument before on here and I know how it's going to end so I will stop now. I feel sorry for the folks that your buddies fleece out of their money and their dreams.

My .02

Cheers,

[steveR]

If you know Mike Filsaime or Frank Kern personally and want to tout them as heroes, that tells me a lot about you.

Not sure what that's supposed to mean...

Don't know these guys personally... All I was trying to say is they got started by marketing to the marketers as well... sorry for the confusion.

Let me ask you a simple question. If you want to get work done on your car, are you going to want a person with many years of experience and all the certifications, or someone who has actually never worked on a car but knows someone who has?

The ONLY business on the planet where a person with no experience would even dare try to charge people for teaching them something they personally know nothing about is IM.

Perhaps we should hire high school dropouts as our school teachers, it would certainly save some money.
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Not sure if you actually read what I said...

Are you telling me that if a professional writer told you that they have some tricks up their sleeve to bust out articles in 10 minutes flat, you wouldn't be interested? (if content publishing was part of your business model)

Or a professional videographer selling you a course on how to do proper lighting for your marketing videos?

Or a Photoshop pro selling you a simple macro for Photoshop that can help you create super fancy buttons in 10 minutes flat?

These are skills that they brought with them into the niche that would potentially be very relevant to your online business... and in my opinion, there are plenty of people that would be interested in getting stuff like that. All they did was tap into their skills and market it laterally... to the IM niche.

I know many VAs (working and living in the US) who would never have been able to realize the Internet Marketing lifestyle had they not sold their services to marketers. They didn't necessarily "know" internet marketing, but they did know how to communicate with people, do research, create content, link building etc.

But I digress...

All I know is that there are individuals who build successful internet businesses virtually overnight... while there are others who have been online for years that can't even crack the 4-figure mark. So, as an entrepreneur it would make sense to move into markets where people are already making a lot of money...

I've had this argument before on here and I know how it's going to end so I will stop now.

So have I (on other forums)... and as I said earlier we are coming from 2 different paradigms, so I reckon we won't agree...

I feel sorry for the folks that your buddies fleece out of their money and their dreams.

I'm in no place to judge other people... People are responsible for their own decisions, but many of the products those guys make have created made people who've used them a lot of money (not only for them).

I know I've learned and profited from material I've learned from Traffic Secrets, Product Launch Formula, Butterfly Marketing, Get Altitude, Mass Control etc.

Just my $0.02.

All the best,
Steven

PS - I apologize if my level of communication isn't up to snuff... English is not my first language (it's actually my third).

[The5sisters]

I'm going to stop this disagreement of viewpoints right now.
You are both right and you are both wrong.Why?

Because one of you is talking about the IM niche on it's own and the other is talking about sub niches exploiting the usage of IM to promote the niches,using IM niche tactics but not teaching the tactics.

[chrisbridd]

Hi,

When you sign up to a forum indroduce yourself, then contribute to what others are saying. Help people out if you can.

Kind Regards

Christopher

[cdl123]

Thanks everyone. Good information.